Not once, but twice in relatively quick succession, Unlocke observed tonight that there was a lot of catching up to do. He wasn’t kidding. “The Last Recruit” moved briskly, touched on a myriad of mysteries, and served up more explosions and twists. But the delicate balance of plot and character definitely felt askew, and along with all the forward velocity, there were moments that seemed to lose traction. At the end of last week’s episode, we felt the stage was set for the final sprint. Tonight’s tale had a lot of flash, but it still feels like we’re waiting for the big show. And with a week off before the next new episode, “The Last Recruit” definitely left us wanting more.
In the flash-sideways, the inevitable collision of our wayward survivors was aggressively accelerated. Sun makes her connection with the island world when she spots Locke on the next gurney. And Jack gets his hands on Locke’s dural sack without a consult. And by the close of our multi-faceted tour of Los Angeles, Kate, Sawyer, Miles, Sayid, Jin, Sun, Jack, Claire, Desmond, Locke, and Ben are clearly interconnected. But can they all be unified and even embark on a plan in the few hours ahead?
I did like Jack’s renewed connection with David, as well as the interplay between cop Sawyer and fugitive Kate, perhaps the strongest character moments in the episode. Seeing Ilana turn up as a lawyer the week after she was blown up on the island was fun, but It still doesn’t make up for her untimely end. Desmond’s actions are again curious, though. Why was he going to see a lawyer? At first we guessed it was just a ruse to point Claire toward Jack, drawn from post-flash omniscience. But he knew Ilana, and had an appointment. Perhaps she’s just corporation counsel for Widmore Industries?
On the island, our unified camp of survivors doesn’t last long, as Sawyer executes his plan and separates Unlocke from several of his precious candidates. It serves the Man in Black right for entrusting a key part of his plan to a con man. Of course, on “LOST,” it can’t be that simple, and after another long look at the ocean, Jack decides that his work’s not done, and jumps overboard. As soon as he returns to the island, Unlocke is there to claim him.
Is Jack “The Last Recruit”? He seems pretty set on confounding Unlocke, but he is also told twice that he’s already “with” him. Claire told Jack that his mistake was letting Unlocke speak. And after Unlocke rescues a dazed Jack from a huge explosion — reminiscent of Claire’s crossing over in New Otherton — he also tells Jack, “You’re with me, now.” I’m wondering if Unlocke is now back to square one… or if there’s a chance that Jack was really the only candidate he needed.
In terms of answers, Unlocke confirms to Jack that he had appeared as Christian Shephard soon after the crash. As with the explanation of the whispers last week, though, the answer seems to bring more questions. Was the Man In Black portraying Christian in Jacob’s cabin? (Probably.) Visiting Jack off the island? (Probably not?) Telling Locke to turn the donkey wheel? (Probably.) Talking to Sun and Frank about the DHARMA Initiative? (Probably not, since at the same time, the Man In Black was Unlocke with the Ajira crew, and supposedly “stuck” in that form.) And a few weeks ago, it seemed significant that Claire described her father and her “friend” as two separate entities. Did she just not know she was in the middle of a puppet show?
And while Unlocke’s darker nature seems even more pronounced now, I’m struck by what he told Jack: he appeared as his father to lead him to water. In retrospect, it does seem to be what the vision accomplished way back in Season 1. And Unlocke also brought water and food to Richard at the Black Rock. Of course, he wanted something from Richard, and still wants something from Jack. But I found the tiny shard of implied benevolence interesting.
Jack was trapped on the island before he even got there? Absolutely. All the Man in Black wanted to do was help them leave? I’m not sure. I think Jack is right to question why he wants them gone, and just how their continued presence is a threat.
While Sawyer was ready to write off Claire and Sayid, both seemed to get a glimmer of hope tonight. Claire’s homicidal urges toward Kate seemed to subside (again) as she was welcomed aboard the escape boat, and Sayid’s hesitation after returning to Locke suggests that talking to Desmond may have reawakened some humanity within him.
Sayid’s character is definitely an empty one now, with even Sawyer dismissing him as a zombie. We’re hoping for a tragic and sad end, or a heroic final turn, but this blank-faced moping around has got to stop. At least Hurley suggests that redemption is possible, invoking what seems to be a contractually obligated “Star Wars” reference. (A reference that pop-culture wise-ass Sawyer inexplicably doesn’t recognize.) Anakin Skywalker turned against his dark lord in a climactic battle, so perhaps Sayid will do the same.
And, yes, at long last, Sun and Jin were reunited. As we’d feared, the overextended separation and the episode’s rushed pace robbed the moment of much of its dramatic power. Actually, the portable sonic fence on the beach seemed to have been purposely situated between them as they ran toward each other, and we were half expecting there to be yet another cheesy contrivance to keep them apart one more week. Fortunately, they embraced and declared their love… but the writers let Lapitas channel David Caruso with a smirking one-liner that deflated whatever emotional power was left in the scene.
Why did Widmore call off the deal with Sawyer? Why does anyone on Team Widmore think missiles are an effective weapon against Unlocke? Where has the spirit of Jacob been all this time, and what is Unlocke’s ultimate plan? And how are we going to survive two weeks before getting our next shot at answers?
- The conversation between Unlocke and Jack was a powerful one. When Unlocke said John Locke was stupid, and a sucker, at first I felt it was just adding insult to injury when it came to one of the most interesting and promising characters on “LOST.” But then I started to think (or hope) that they were actually setting John Locke up to be vindicated somehow. I hope so.
- Off the island, we learn that Locke’s wheelchair actually saved his life. Jen said it reminded her of how losing his kidney saved his life when he was shot by Ben.
- Flash-sideways Kate emphatically insists she’s innocent. And if the flash-sideways are going to ultimately suggest happier lives for our survivors, it would make sense that she is. Notice that Sawyer offers Kate an apple in the police station. A reference to Eve and the Garden of Eden? Or is it just an apple?
- Sawyer’s observation that it’s “weird” how he and Kate ended up crossing each others paths reminded us of Jack remarking to Kate in “316” that it was “crazy” to see that they were all back together on an airplane.
- We loved how cool Unlocke was when the first warning missile struck in the jungle. The huge explosion behind his unflinching figure called to mind the moment he blew up the submarine in Season 3.
- Zoe’s conversation with Unlocke, in which Unlocke says he has no idea what she’s talking about, is a direct mirror of the conversation Unlocke has with Widmore over a similar situation in “The Package.”
- Miles says his last name is Straum. So even though he’s got a good relationship with his museum-managing dad, Dr. Chang, there’s still a kink or two in that family tree.
- Ilana’s last name is Verdanski. Couldn’t think of how that might be significant, if only in comparison to Radzinski and Minkowski.
- Hurley says, “People are trying to kill us again.” Just like old times.
- Sawyer gets of at least one notable nickname: Chesty. It was funny how he referred to Lapitas as a guy who looked like he stepped out of a Burt Reynold’s movie… but it was an unusually clunky line of dialogue where “the pilot” probably would have sufficed.
- Locations: The office building where Claire, Desmond, Jack, David, and Ilana came together was Pauahi Tower in downtown Honolulu. The hospital where Sun and Jin and Jack and Locke turned up was the Rehab Hospital of the Pacific (though I think the ambulance bay and emergency entrance was Kuakini Hospital). The house where Sayid was captured by Sawyer and Miles is on Waiohinu Drive in Kahala. The “old pier” where Jack and his group boarded the Elizabeth was Coconut Island in Kaneohe Bay.
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@Bonita and @Rich: Didn’t Darlton adamantly say on their podcast that Jack’s ex-wife is Sarah? It was either on a podcast or at a Q&A.
Do love the idea that Sun’s OBGYN might be Juliet… but I’ll raise you the premise that Sawyer will go to the hospital to question Jin (through an interpreter) and meet Juliet. Then Sawyer can ‘inadvertently’ see/hear Anthony Cooper.
Zombie Sayid!!!!!!!
@michael I think kate is too young to be annie…but then again the writers make it night and day in a matter of minutes so I don’t see why not.
@james and many others I too don’t get how jack saw his dad off the island if he was smokey…what about when Kate sees claire or was that just a very real bad dream?
I was waiting for the jin and sun reunion..I liked it but like many things now, the wait or the mystery will often be better than the payoff.
In the scene where they are all leaving the camp and pod-Locke is heading off with pod-sayid you see the little boy. I know its Zack but it sure lookes like “creepy boy”.
I am hoping Des can change pod-Sayid so he can swoop in and rescue Jack.
Not looking forward to Kate and Sawyer back in the cage.
Love how Des is acting like Jacob by nudging people (or crashing into them) to get them together.
Finally…can’t remember who said it..but I wouldn’t mind seeing the librarian with a gun get “Arnsted”.
Two week break eh? Could we start a thread with all the questions we hope to have answsered by May 23rd?
My 1st would be why was Walt dripping wet and talking backwards?
Thanks Ryan and Jen!
I am very happy with the Christian Shephard explanation… yes it was pretty blatant, but not as bad as the whispers reveal, and also just what we needed to end the debate about that apparrition. We were always wondering “Ummmm if Christian Shephard was actually Smokie in season 1, why would he be leading Jack to water??”. Well Jack asks that very question in this episode: “Why?” and the answer: “Because you needed to find water.” LOL ok I guess that answers it!
Conclusions:
-The Time Loop Theory is still valid. (FLocke/MIB is the “corrector”.)
-The two/three timelines converge. (Jack’s neck wound.)
Questions:
-Who survives the timeline merge. (Who stays on the island?)
-Who is Jacobs replacement
Unknow:
-FLocke/MIB may have to stay on the Island.
I guess the big mystery is why Widmore is getting involved in the events of the island? If the Man in Black was always a threat on the island why come now as opposed to a few years ago? Or why try to extract Ben from the island back in season 3 and 4?
The Christian Shepard comment by Locke was the most baffling, but there is definitely a second Christian Shepard.
Claire even mentions that Locke was “pretending” to be their father, and had early mentioned that they were 2 different people. So, apparently she is aware that Locke is taking this other form somehow – but he’s stuck in Lock. Guh.
If there ends up being a ton of discrepancies, I’m going to scream 🙂
Really liked the ‘probably/probably not’-part of your review Ryan.
I got a feeling we will see Unlock AND Jack AND Christian at the same time in (one of) the next episode(s).
@ Ryan – love your phrase “Shard of Benevelence”!
@ Rich I guess I’m a diehard Juliet/James shipper because I didn’t want to read a sweet connection between Kate the Convict and Detective Ford.
@Ryan: Unlocke was stuck to that form after killing Jacob… he appeared has Alex in front of Ben just hours before that! So he could have told Sun and Franck to wait at the barracks, moved to Ajira where people would ask where he came from, talk to Ben and then go back to the Island…
@gene e: it is called SCIENCE fiction… So yes, we have fictional science. But the “rules” have been explained by classics: HG Wells, J. Verne, PK Dick… and Star Trek. And usually they extrapolate from the latest science discoveries.
I don’t know about pseudo faith and pseudo believers but smoke monster is not something you will find in the Book either…
One thing really bothers me with what you said, the opposite of Faith(believe) is not fear! It is pragmatism… or empiricism (you should study your John Locke and Hume about that). It is not because you don’t believe in something that you should fear it! Faith or pragmatism are two different ways to FACE fear… two sides of the same coin.
I agree with you on “All you need is love” and I have just one thing to add: “Imagine”
@Helen: Widmore had to make sure that the Oceanic6 went back to the Island first.
I thing we are being manipulated again… The answers are given to us way too casually for this show! Why would Christian tell Locke he needs to bring them back to the Island and sacrifice himself and say “hello to my son” (while he wasn’t Yemi’s brother) if all he wants is to leave without any Candidate on Island to take the role of Jacob? Something is clearly missing in the jigsaw and it is: which team are the ghost? They helped Locke find Jacob’s cabin, Hurley saw Christian with someone else in the cabin, they told Juliet that Charlotte and Daniel were to be killed because they were going to do something bad with the tempest, they “killed” Shannon, they brought Sayid to the temple where he died and became a zombie…
We are definitively not done with those answers and I think we only got a glimpse yet!
I dont want to show off to anyone (why would I) but after watching “The lighthouse” I had a the following idea:
“LA X” timeline Jack == Christian
I made two comments about this:
http://www.hawaiiup.com/lost/2010/02/23/lighthouse/#comment-41660 (february 24th, 10:19)
http://www.hawaiiup.com/lost/2010/03/30/the-package/#comment-43523 (april 2nd, 10:36)
I think above is still not proven incorrect !!
Any negative/positive comments about this would be nice.
My questions:
1. Is Unlock unable to turn into smokey ??
2. Is Unlock unable to read anyones mind ??
3. Is this because Sayid stabbed Unlock with Dogan’s knife ?? (It really is MIB’s knife, see “Ab Aeterno”)
If UnLocke was Christian, then where is Christian’s body? It wasn’t in the coffin. It seems to me that it is more likely that he is a “zombie” like Sayid.
Also, UnLocke could have been Christian when talking to Frank and Sun about the Dharma Initiative. He wasn’t “stuck” until Ben killed Jacob.
Trying to determine what is true about what MIB says, reminds me of the old joke about lawyers and how do you know when they are lying…….
MIB says he wants everyone to leave the island together – but he doesnt say everyone has to be alive. He says to Claire, once Kate has served her purpose (getting Jack and/or Sawyer maybe) it doesn’t matter what happens. I think it has something to do with Jacob’s line – if you kill me, someone else will take my place. MIb has to remove all the candidates to take Jacob’s place.
@Doug from IL – brilliant psychic connection theory, even so…..
MIB says he can’t travel across water – why do we take this as Gospel? I love Sawyer’s line “because that would be crazy.” Seems like a Greek chorus – Christian showing up on the freighter – why would Jacob do that? Why would Michael see Christian Shephard on his own? They didn’t have any relationship pre-plane crash right?
I think MIB had found Ben quite useful to that point and wanted to protect him, therefore wanted to thwart the freighties. I think Christian was a red herring there – making us think about the purgatory question, like Locke’s Dad in the brig kept insisting they were all in hell. I think Anthony Cooper was probably MIB – he and Ben were trying to corrupt his faith, in the same way that Ben lied and told Locke that he didn’t push the button.
@ everyone discussing MIB as christian. Agree that MIB is Christian in the jungle, Christian in the cabin, Christian with the frozen donkey wheel but not Christian in the hospital. After all, MIB can’t get off the island. That suggests that perhaps Jacob took Christian’s body for that excursion as Jacob can get off the island. There has always seemed to be that “split” sort of Christian – good Christian and bad Christian and I think this episode just strengthens that argument.
Jack is my hero! 🙂 I really liked seeing Jack back in that I-have-to-save-everybody role, even if most of the time he blows it and ends up making things worse.
I tend to agree with everyone who said unLocke is full of crap when he said he was Christian. At most, he was a part-time Christian, but there is no way he could have been Christian on the freighter.
Also, I’m pretty confident Sayid did not kill Desmond. First, I don’t think Desmond is able to die yet, because the “island is not done with him.” Second, I also tend to this this is step 1 in Sayid’s redemption. Desmond has seemed pretty cool and calm, and I think he knows how this will play out and it isn’t going to play out with him dead.
I think it is interesting to see Desmond in the flash-sideways as the orchestrator not merely of the 815 folks seeing their parallel selves, but also as the one who is bringing them together (ie., Whoops! This just happens to be the lawyer who is handling Christian’s will and she’s looking for Claire already?! What a coincidence!). I’m not sure what the purpose is yet, but Desmond seems to be pretty clear in his purpose, so I’m sure that’ll be revealed sooner or later.
Overall, not my favorite episode of the season, but it is getting us where we need to go. Can’t wait for the podcast guys!!
you know this show is making you crazy when…..
I was obsessing mid show about how much time had elapsed between the pitch dark conversations of Locke and Jack and Claire and then their return to camp in the daylight……
but even worse, Jack and David enter Illana’s office and are introduced to Claire, and there is a sequence of shots of Jack maybe two seconds long where his tie is clearly disheveled – the know is pulled down an inch, you can see the top button on his collar, the back of the tie is even visible and we only know that because they give us a wider shot.
Ok so rewind, shot after shot of Jack and David walking together – looking awesome by the way, as a Dad I want to be than thin and be able to wear that suit and have my sons in suits like that! – they are obviously well put together.
Why the lack of continuity? Was it a mistake, or was another reference to Jack’s neck like the blood on it in LA X?
@James asked was there a time that Smokey scanned Jack and how would he know to take the form of his father………..
Made me think immediately of the opening shot of the series……….the close up on Jack’s eyes as he comes to in the forest right? Reminded me of the POV shots of smokey scanning Richard in the Black Rock.
For the first time I’m really appreciating the FSW and Island timelines’ interplay. Sun seeing Locke, Sun and Jin in the hospital foreshadowing their reuinion on the beach. Very interesting that Sawyer and Kate have had no flash of the alternate timeline – I wonder how they will experience it. Jack operating on Locke with a scalpel calls to mind the big knife that keeps showing up on the island!
The MIB has been stuck as Locke since Jacob died. Therefore, he did appear as Christian to Sun and Frank.
@Yann good theory but still wrong… If the rules apply all the time. It would be impossible for Locke to have been Christian.
For starters, Ajira landed on hydra island, Sun and Lapidus left for Dharma Barracks. John welcomes Ben back to the land of the living, they grab an outrigger and head for redemption ville. At that same moment, they pop over to Sun and Lapidus encountering Christian and being shown the Dharma picture. So how is Locke on the outrigger with Ben and in the cabin as Christian with Sun and Lapidus.
Secondly, we have not been told that mib can astral project himself. So how did he appear to Jack in the hospital? Or to Micheal on the boat.
This is considering that the rule applies that MIB can not cross water, and again, appearing to Jack and Michael would only mean astral projection considering that mib can’t get off the island.
I have a question…why did Jack have to put Christians shoes on Lockes body when they were returning to the island?
@Islandsidhe- It was a short line but I clearly heard it as the voice of MIB. I even skipped back 3 times for my wife to hear it. She thought his voice sounded different but she just said that he was talking lower. But if you listen closely there is a complete change in the background audio.
Jack – man of faith – we have come full circle.
I really enjoyed this one – this was a great episode!
Thoughts:
We have seen UnLocke offer something to those dubious of him to entice them to come with him. He offers Richard – chance to be with his wife again, Claire – reuniting with her son, Sayid – reuniting with his wife. My question is: what was/is he offering Jack? Nothing? So is everything UnLocke does just a lie? In any case, Jack does not appear to me to want anything. He has given up on being with Kate since her only motivation is for Claire to be with Aaron again. For that matter, what could he have offered Sawyer and Kate? The chance to leave? They already did that, without his help. These plot points bug me as I like to think we should be able to follow the actions of our characters clearly.
I do think the explanations on the show are simpler than most of the theories we’ve made up over the years, and more obvious, once made clear, which I enjoy.
Also, when Sun and Locke were being wheeled into the hospital next to each other on stretchers, Sun seemed to recognize him. Not only did she recognize him, she was very frightened of him. She kept yelling “It’s him!” to Jin. So maybe the violent experieces do make stronger connections then the light nuddging of love at first sight?
I think it’s getting more difficult to judge these episodes individually and that is what makes LOST so different from other television. It’s both frustrating and addictive. I really like to stay positive and be more fan than critic. One of the reasons I come so much to the Transmission is that it usually feels like others share this view. Though I confess to having some major criticisms myself, I like my initial postings to be more on the Fangirl spectrum.
I think Whidmore called off his deal with Sawyer because he is untrustworthy, but mainly it was because Sawyer had to learn that his real alliance is with the other Losties, so that in the endgame he sides with them, and helps them to defeat the MIB. Jacob’s Losties Win together but Die Alone; Kate is teaching him that he may be wrong about Clare too.
Also: it is irritating that it sometimes takes our characters days and days (episodes & episodes) to get from one side of the island to the other, then other times, like in this one, Sawyer & Kate are there in no time…whaaat?
And: What are Ben & Richard & Miles doing all this time? (Back to the “This island is only big when it’s convenient for the story” thing).
Keeping this simple:
Unlocke with Moses Staff…out of wilderness…leading Jack (both as Locke and as..ahem…”Christian Shepherd”) to being the Savior. This is one big ruse by the writers, or it’s spot on Father-Son-Holy Spirit Christian Victory.
I like everyone’s thoughts about how possibly Unlocke is lying about being Christian Shepherd, so he’s using all the surface-level Christian Shepherd goods to seem like the good guy to get his way….
Something that keeps building through this season is the question asked by all the Losties to Unlocke: “What are you?” “Who are you?” “I don’t even know what you are anyway.” Ummmm….God?
@KK and MT Breeze – remember our conversation about red shirts and the color theme of the temple others seemed to be red. Well if any of them were alive, they might rethink the whole “red” concept. In the season premiere and I saw all the red, I knew they wouldn’t make it till the end of the season.
@everybody – seems that if you are not a candidate the island only has a limited use for you. This does not bode well for Ben, Richard and Miles.
Another thing – where does Widmore get these scientists that think nothing of blowing people up. Is there a mercenary scientific branch out there somewhere? Kind of like an Marine/MIT base? For a island that is there to contain evil and look for the good there is a lot of death. There is such a disregard for life on Lost. This again makes me question the “goodness” of Jacob and the island.
@Scott B – did you notice how Jack and David even walked exactly alike? The director did a great job with matching mannerisms. The show does a great job in casting children look alikes. I thought mini-Kate looked just like her as well.
I think our predictions about kate being pregnant will be true. Jin and Sun have a child in both worlds, makes sense that Jack will have one as well. (though with different moms, Juliet just has to be David’s mom)
Verdansky or Vernadsky?
Check out this page with an old science theory that might have a connection to the idea of the Island being a player.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noosphere
@Leachpunk: the order in the episode was “wrong”… namaste happened before “The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham”. It is by night and after Sun attacked Ben that Unlocke appeared on Hydra Island so it is quite possible that he appeared AFTER having told Sun and Lapidus to wait for him…
But I have to agree, I don’t think that Christian is mib. The freighter appearence happened WITH Whispers! So it was the ghost of Christian that talked to Michael. And I said it was strange he would refere to himself as Jack’s father to Locke while he said to Eko that he wasn’t his brother.
@Bob: I think he just offered to Jack a “solution” to what his father was doing on Island… real or not.
Now I would like to add another biscuit about Christian: The very first scene that happened after the crash is on a mobisode “so it begins”. We see Christian talking to Vincent and asking to “go find my son. he has work to do” well the biggest mistery here is not how can Vincent understant english (maybe if Sun gives her pen he will tell us everything that is happening) but why mib would take this form! Had he just scanned Jack? What was the “work” about?
Funny how on Lostpedia everything has been changed as if mib is telling the truce about him being Christian… Like, we should trust him while everyone is saying we shouldn’t and how is “word” are deceiving and make you join his camp instantly.
@Chris and Rus – I too share your frustrations sometimes. It feels like the writers are trying to get away with technicalities. Like the island is not purgatory for the losties, but it acts as one for the people who did bad things on the island. re: the time travel – do you mean the rules of time travel or time travel itself? I agree a good “no comment” would have been better. It’s like they couldn’t stand their theories being guessed so they tried to misdirect us and then use the technicalities to back up what they said.
RE; Damon and Carlton’s plan – I think they had a basis of where they wanted it all to end up but changed things along the way. To keep this going for 6 years they had to at least have the “cork” theory, MIB and Jacob and the others.
I am trying to just enjoy the rest of the season and I am trying to not nitpick at everything, but sometimes it is tough to do that. Some of the answers have been so complicated and now they are trying too hard to make them easy. Island=cork, yup MIB is Christian, whispers – dead people. I am not used to easy, I am used to confusing.
I feel that Damon and Carlton want to leave somethings left to debate for years to come, and Christian being the MIB is one of them. Christian could have been a ghost in LA or Jacob. It is open ended.
Is it just me who will find it a bummer if the timelines converge? For any or all of the characters? It’s totally unsatisfying that one timeline is “remembered” and one is actually “lived”?
@steve: It would be a bummer, but it would also not follow, logically. If there are 2 separate timelines, why could there not be 3, or 4, or 1,000,000,000? Why would just these 2 converge and no others? We just can’t think about it that much, I guess! What makes that difficult is that they want us to think so much about the philosophical questions, but not the “science” ones!
who else thinks that when the cops (miles) go to interview Jin and Sun in the hospital in sideways world, miles will bring along CHARLOTTE, his friend from his dad’ museum, as she speaks Korean?
Maybe MIB could visit Jack off Island because Jack was really still on the Island. The Oceanic 6 thought they had escaped, but the off Island world, just like the sideways world now, weren’t real.
Reminds me a Star Trek TNG episode where Moriarty thought he had escaped the holodeck and fled the Enterprise but was really still inside a holodeck simulation.
Did Walt and Michale really escape? Maybe not. Michale says he is trapped there, maybe he always was.
@lucydog – does Charlotte speak Korean now? If Jin wasn’t there to teach her on the island, she may not have learned it.
@carol—
jin didn’t teach her—he found out on the island that she was understanding him and sun…she was eavesdropping.
Not sure who drew the map for Sawyer, but I’m glad they put the north/south legend on it. Really handy for the Island of Magnetic Anomalies, huh?
I just assumed that when she was a little girl and Jin was in Dharma, he taught her korean. 🙂
@carol — don’t go there. our heads will explode!
@lucydog – or at the very least we will get nosebleeds.
@Bob: Especially since it has been stated since season1 that the north wasn’t north on the Island…
@Carol: I love that theory… as an archeologist working to find out about Dharma and finding stuff in Tunisia… I don’t understand why she would have learn Korean but if she did remember when she was young that a guy spoke this language maybe that is why she learnd it!
@yann- maybe she taught Jin english and she taught him Korean, how cute would that have been.
I meant he taught her Korean. I need caffeine!
@Rus – are we up for our usual breakfast dates with Charlie and Boone?
@yann- how is the ash situation in France now? Any better?
Ok you were right about Kate being too young to be annie, but her mothers name is Di-ane and she’d be the right age to have spent her childhood on the island with ben. She also looks a bit like juliette and may have been Ben’s first love. Remember the others telling Julieete that she was getting special treatment because she “looks just like her”. We never learned who “she” was. Ben is kate’s father and born on the island but left with her mom when she was young. (after eating those dharma candy bars) Which means she didn’t kill her father, yet. And all the star wars mentions are to re-inforce the theme of “I am your father” Both for kate and I’m guessing desmond. Can’t wait to see who his father is! Probalby plays into the Jacob, MIB theme as well. There is a reason everyone on LOST has daddy issues. Jacob is the MIB’s father or son, and that is why he has stayed all these years trying to teach his son/dad a lesson about humanity.
“Ilana’s conversation with Unlocke, in which Unlocke says he has no idea what she’s talking about, is a direct mirror of the conversation Unlocke has with Widmore over a similar situation in “The Package.””
@Ryan – do you mean Zoey?
Here’s my big problem with Ilana. Why did she not have any trace of an accent in the sideways? Didn’t that bug anyone else? Is it supposed to mean something? Why would Darlton have her with no accent when she’s been Russian this whole time?